Survey about Masters and Associations: Comments
· All organizations are useful, its development depends on the compromise and interest of thei affiliates. 
· I suppose that there will be people which shares my opinion when I say that IKKA Spains doesn't work well. Save yourself, but there are certain senior that think they're gods for being in the directive, so LET'S SEE IF WE UNDERSTAND THAT FOR SOMETHING TO EVOLVE YOU HAVE TO FEEL IT, BELIEVE IN IT AND TRANSMIT IT and not sweep only home, and if not do look at the trajectory from the point they took office and see whether they have grow or more likely half the people has left. AN ASSOCIATION IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF ITS ASSOCIATES, and if I pay and annual fee and then I have to pay for a semminar, or for a master from outside of Spain, what is the fee then for? Because if it's for the insurance the Social Security is cheaper, even a private company.
· American kenpo americano, is one of the best, but there are people that doesn't study all the program and then teach all they know, but as if they knew the whole syllabus, they fool a lot of people and the worst is that they distort our art.
· Hate to see Kenpo so fragmented.  It seeems every new group is a breakaway from anothernew group.
· There ought to be a better union among different associations. We would strenghten more this martial art, evolve, innovate and learn from others. There're many interests created and a lot of pride.
· Here in Mexico there are some masters that they alone put on rank!! There's one that in only 3 years went from 2 to 5 degree!!
Believe it!! www.kenpo.com.mx
francisco soto!!..I think this isn't fair! and it's not fair because the image of true practitioners is stained...
· I think that the curren IKKA board in Spain is lacking as they have it set as a private club in which the gyms in Madrid are the ones profiting mainly, and they still have an anual quota set to which, personally me, I haven't seen any benefit, when for taking part in a semminar given by its President I had to pay a quantity I didn't feel was fair.
· That there is far too many associations is just incorrigible. For that, we should get organized to be able to work together in tourneys and semminars.
· It's a pity that kenpo is in the state it is, so disgregated and with so many gods and saviors, that in the end are the ones destroying kenpo because they all feel are in possession of the truth and they don't know how to surrender and recognized the wisdom of true masters. I think that the direction which we, all kenpoists, have to follow is the NON contempt of the other fellow who practices the same art but with a different master.
· Mr. Paul Mills continues to develop new technieques.  He was a personal sudent of ed parker for ten years, so he brings to the AKKI the knowledge Mr. Parker taught.  The AKKI has very cool club and knive curriculms. We constantly learn new and better ways to move.  The focus is on innovation.  I like that the high ranking black belts don't think they know it all, they are still students too.
· I have trained in kenpo from the day Mc Sweeney introduced  it to Ireland in 1963, and since the mid seventies have been disheartened at the speed which some individuals have been graded, and in recent years annoyed at high grades doing techniques that would not work at the seminar or in the street. they seem to concentrate on counter moves and get carried away with complicated moves and ignore the initial attack. I honestly do not believe they could block a punch let alone a bottle to the face, what good are the complicated moves then. Tom Jordan.
· Anybody knows why in the Spanish Federation they don't know the whole program, they do Karate sparring, have dropped the purple belt and two brown degrees, do't do seminars and convalidate degrees from other systems? What they do is Kenpo Karate? Thank you.
· THE TROUBLE WITH FILLING IN A FORM LIKE THIS IS THAT IT DOES NOT GIVE A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF REASONS PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE TO TRAIN WITH EACH OTHER ANY MORE,

I WILL LIST A FEW:
EGO'S
MONEY
LACK OF INFORMATION GIVEN BY THE SO CALLED "MASTERS"
THE PROMISE OF MORE
DIFFERING STANDARDS OF BLACK BELT

I HAVE TRAINED WITH ALOT OF THE PEOPLE YOU LIST ON YOUR SITE, OR HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE. FOR THE MOST PART THEY DISAPPIONT YOU WHEN ACTUALLY SEE THEM MOVE, IF THEY EVER DO.
I HAVE BEEN BURNED BY THESE SO CALLED "MASTERS" AND WOULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THEM ANYMORE.
I HAVE TRAINED WITH MANY OF THE SPANISH WHEN THEY HAVE COME TO JERSEY IN THE PAST AND THEY WERE OF A VERY HIGH STANDARD. IT IS TIME THAT THE INSTRUCTORS IN EACH COUNTRY STARTED TO TAKE CONTROL OF THERE OWN DESTINY AND TEACH THE ART AS THEY SEE IT. WE ARE ALL CAPABLE MARTIAL ARTIST IN OUR OWN RIGHT. IF PEOPLE ARE PREPARED TO PUT THE RANK OF AN INSTRUCTOR ON, THEN THEY
ACT LIKE ONE.

WELL YOU DID ASK!!

REGARDS ROY TRAVERT
· I have read above that a practitioner has gone from 2nd degree black to 5th degree in two years, since here in spain there's who has gone from 2nd degree brown to 4th degree black in three years and a have approximately. So don't worry.
· I HAVE SOMETIMES HEARD PEOPLE FROM THE FEK TALKING BAD ABOUT EVERYBODY (IKKA, LTKKA...) EVERYBODY WHO ISN'T THEMSELVES. HOWEVER, I AM CERTAIN THAT AT ORGANIZATIONAL AND MARTIAL LEVEL THEY'RE PART OF THE WORST I'VE SEEN. IN MY SCHOOL I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYONE CRITIZISING OTHER MASTERS OR SCHOOLS, ALL THE CONTRARY, MY TEACHER ALWAYS SAYS THAT WE TRAIN WITH EVERYBODY NO MATTER THEIR PATCH. TOO MUCH CRITICISING BUT THEY LATER COME TO LEARN AT THE lt AND YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN RECEIVED AS FRIENDS. JEALOUSY IS SO BAD FRIENDS OF THE FEK... DON'T WORRY THAT WHEN YOUR DEPARTMENT FAILS, WE'LL STILL BE RECEIVING YOU OPEN HEARTEDLY. REGARDS TO ALL AND LET'S SEE IF FOR ONCE WE CAN TRAIN TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF KENPO KARATE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE ALL WANT. LET'S STOP CRITICISING AND LET'S TRAIN SOME MORE. ME THE FIRST.
· SOME OF THE WELL KNOWNED MASTERS NAMED FROM HERE, FROM SPAIN, A FEW ARE SAVED, LIKE Benedicto Rosales, the Luelmo brothers,and a few else. THEY'RE TRULY GREAT MASTERS. MANY OTHERS DON'T KNOW KENPO BUT ACT LIKE GREAT MASTERS. I ONLY SAY JEALOUSY IS SO BAD. AS MUCH AS WE LIKE ANYTHING, ALWAYS, AND LET'S BE CLEAR, THERE WILL BE SOMEONE BETTER THAN THE OTHER. *
· I THINK THAT RELATING TO ACTIVITIES IT WOULD BE TRULY POSITIVE BETWEEN STUDENTS AND INSTRUCTORS TO SHOW THE SPIRIT OF THE SPORT, AS SOME HAVE IT STAINED WITH THEIR ARROGANCE. I AGREE WITH SOME COMMENTS REGARDING SOME "MASTERS"; I WANT KENPO TO BE THE MARTIAL ART THAT WAS TO BE STABLISHED WITH ALL ITS CONTENTS. WITH ITS TECHNIQUES, ITS UNIQUE BELT SYSTEM, ITS OWN BASE THAT ALTHOUGH BACKED BY OTHER MARTIAL ART IN THE FEDERATION IN THE EXAMS IT IS OUR BASES.
Let's rescue American Kenpo or Ed Parker kenpo from piracy
· The Elite-Fighters Legacy Kenpo section has the best material for Ed Parker's American Kenpo.  They have the material for the 24 technique system in Ed Parker's books.
www.elite-fighters.com is great
· Greetings to all the people of LTKKA and specially the students of Carlos Jódar in Gym Kolumnas
· In Spain there is no "master" of Ed Parker's Kenpo Karate, there are professors and instructors. The Master title is obtained with the 8th degree black belt (INFINITE INSIGHTS INTO KENPO, ED PARKER, volume 2, page 10).
The highest ranks in Spain are: José Enrique Hernández (6th degree IKKA), José María Gutiérrez (5th degree IKKA). Both of them have obtained one by one all of the degrees inside IKKA, from 1st degree to the one they have currently, with no jumps. Independently from the degrees they may have had previously in other federation. In IKKA Españanthere's no convalidation, you have to obtain them one by one.
In the other hand, Ed Parker's Kenpo is not a japanese system, so the term "dan" shouldn't be used. The correct term is degree (same reference as above).
The important thing to learn the system is training adequately with qualified professors and instructors, that is, that have the requested knowledge. For the students to learn the same, Ed Parker made a program with the requirements for each belt (basic elements, techniques, sets and forms). To get each belt it is required to learn techniques (10 for yellow, 24 for the rest), forms (1 per belt) and sets (1 or 2 per belt). Moreover, such as Ed Parker left the program, the techniques, forms and sets for each belt have their own reason to be as they are. This implies that the program must not be taught in any order other than that stablished by Grand Master Ed Parker, because the system will be broken. The number of techniques per belt cannot be reduced per se, nor the order in which they have to be taught modified, neither sets and forms can be dropped. To modify the program it should be completely restructured for the techniques, sets and forms to be related, as well as their order. If this wasn't the case, the sense the Grand Master wanted it to have would be lost. It could be done, but not in a day and much less by people who are not real Masters (above 8th degree) and first generation students of Ed Parker, with which they would have drink from the generating source.
A reference to the whole programme and the explanaition of the followed order can be found in INFINITE INSIGHTS INTO KENPO, ED PARKER, volume 5, pages 67-88, taking into account that Ed Parker made some small modifications afterwards, changing the position of certain sets. In spanish, the program to black belt can be found in www.kenpoestudio.com (techniques, forms and sets for each belt).
· "Kenpo is neither yours nor mine, it's ours" Parker told, few heard him....
· Call Me at 1-775-378-1288 Grandmaster Elwood
· I find the WKKA a very nice association. Its annual camps are a blast.
· It's a great idea this of generating a survey that touches elements which are important to ma practitioners
· Master is a general term in many ways.  My Instructor is a sixth under Mr. Planas and I would not leave him to train under one of the "masters".

*[Administrator's note]: This message has been edited to get rid of personal attacks.

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